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The Showering name is synonymous with both innovation and tradition in the world of cider for the past 187 years. In this Episode 425 of Cider Chat, Nick Showering shares a bit on his family’s cider-making roots that stretch back over 400 years and in the past 180 years in the town of Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England. Nick Showering A Storied Legacy in Somerset The Showerings have been crafting cider in Somerset for nearly two centuries. It all began with a small pub, The Ship Inn, where cider was made and served locally. As generations passed, the family expanded their influence, eventually creating Babycham—a sparkling perry that revolutionized the beverage industry and played a key role in shaping British drinking culture in the 1950s. The playful brand with the signature reindeer brought a fresh, elegant option to women in a male-dominated pub scene. Hello Triple Vintage! Triple Vintage is made with 100% cider apples all grown in Somerset. The featured apple in this cider is Dabinett. Solera, the te

Apple Phenotyping: The Tools Every Orchardist Needs In Episode 424 of Cider Chat, we dive deeper into the intricate world of apple identification, this time focusing on apple phenotyping — the art and science of describing apples by their physical characteristics. This is Part 3 of the three part series on John Bunker, renowned author, apple detective, and founder of FEDCO Trees. Expect a master class and experiential lesson as he shares his extensive experience and provides a valuable toolbox of techniques that for apple fans, cider makers and orchardist. What is Phenotyping? Apple phenotyping refers to the process of identifying and describing apples by their observable physical traits, such as size, shape, color, and texture. These characteristics, known as phenotypes, help orchardists distinguish between different apple cultivars. While apples may be genetically identical, they can exhibit slight variations based on their environment, making phenotyping a key skill for identifying and preserving apple v

In Episode 423 of Cider Chat, we delve into the fascinating world of apple identification a.k.a. Apple Id with the one and only John Bunker, a renowned author and the c0-founder of FEDCO Trees, Maine Organic Farmers and Gardners Association (MOFGA). Hear as he shares his lifelong passion for tracking down historic apple varieties and teaching others how to preserve these treasures is truly inspiring. This presentation is part one of a two-part series on Apple ID recorded at CiderCon2024. John Bunker portrait by John Alsop of Cornville, ME Hear John Bunker walking us through the intricacies of apple identification, reminding us that it’s not just about identifying a fruit — it’s about preserving history. For orchardists and cider makers, understanding the varieties in your care is a crucial part of maintaining the integrity of your orchard and the quality of your cider apples. 00:00 Introduction to Cider Chat and Apple Mysteries 01:37 John Bunker's Apple Identification Journey 04:11 The Importance of Apple

New York Apple Camp Keynote Address by John Bunker In a captivating keynote from the 2023 New York Apple Camp, John Bunker, the founder of FEDCO Trees and renowned author on apple identification, shared his profound connection to the outdoors. John Bunker in his favorite shirt and barefeet Enjoy the Keynote by John that weaves his passion for Jazz, quotes from thought leaders and his insights on the late frost of 2023 and the community surrounding apples, cider and plants. In This Keynote Address Find 5 key areas that John bunker focused on during his speech. Connection to Nature and OrchardsObservations Learnings from Plants Environmental and Agricultural Reflections Philosophical Musings and Inspirations Legacy and Passing the Torch View from above of John Bunker’s Keynote Subscribe to Cider Chat for Part 2 with John Bunker – Apple ID 101 w/John Bunker coming out in Episode 423 – August 21, 2024 What is the New York Apple Camp? The camp took place for the first time ever in July of 2023. It was he

Eli Shanks' of Punta de Fierro Fine Cider In this episode meet Eli Shanks, a passionate cider maker sharing his journey from urban Massachusetts to the picturesque landscapes of Chile, where he co-founded Punta de Fierro Cider. Eli developed an early interest in food systems and agriculture with influences from attending The Farm School, working at The Food Project and running an orchard in Concord, Massachusetts. Eli Shanks with bottle of Punta de Fierro The History of Cider in Chile Chile has a rich tradition in fermenting apples into cider. Historically, cider production was a significant part of the local economy. Families were taxed based on their cider tank space, and cider apples were a staple in many homes. Chilean cider, known as "Chicha", is a farmhouse product with various local recipes, often fermented naturally with residual sugar. Organizations and Collaborations Eli has co-founded the Chilean Cider Collective (COSIGI), which aims to preserve and promote Chile’s unique cider her

Basque Cheesecake and Santa Cruz Cider Cider Chat Live brings you a tasting of a celebratory cider from Santa Cruz Cider Company paires with a what is called Basque Cheesecake! Basque Cheesecake is much less dense than classic New York cheesecake. It is crustless, and has a golden, beautiful caramelized exterior. It also has a much lighter texture and flavor. The cheesecake is baked at a high temperature in order to get that burnt exterior and super creamy interior. In this Live on Cheesecake and Cider from Santa Cruz! This mini episode came about when Nicole Todd who cofounded Santa Cruz Cider Company in California with her sister Natalie. Nicole was traveling east to Maine with fellow book club members who she has been meeting monthly since covid kicked off in 2020. They spent the evening with Ria, went for a swim to avoid the heat and drank copious amounts of cider and ended the evening with a special pairing of the 10 year anniversary cider with the Basque Cheesecake. Hear about this anniversary cider a

Wooden Gate: From Farm to Cidery with Clint Caver Clint Cavers and his wife Pamela have been farming for over 30 years at Wooden Gate The Farm and cidery is based in Pilot Mound, Manitoba, Canada which is right over the border of North Dakato. Clint’s journey from hobby fermenter to full-time cider maker now represents 95% of their farm’s focus. Initially homesteaders, they shifted towards cider making due to a passion for fermentation. Clint began making wine and cider about 25 years ago, initially with fruit wines before discovering the potential of apples. The Shift to Full-Time Cider Making In 2018, Clint and Pam decided to turn their cider-making hobby into a business. By 2019, Wooden Gate obtained its official license, and in 2020, it became a full-time venture. This shift was motivated by their desire for a less labor-intensive activity and a need for fulfilling work after their children left home. Orchard and Apple Varieties Wooden Gate’s orchard spans seven acres with about 800 trees, including win

Paving a Path for Cider Branding at Cultivator Meet Kirk Evans, the founder of Cultivator Creative. In this episode, Kirk shares his journey from a casual cider maker to a professional brand designer specializing in cider packaging and identity. Kirk Evans Cultivator Creative focuses on creating comprehensive brand identities that go beyond just a logo. Kirk emphasizes the importance of a cohesive brand voice, graphical elements, and a well-thought-out brand guideline to ensure consistency across all marketing materials. His approach ensures that even small cider brands can present themselves professionally and attractively to consumers. The Journey to Cider Branding at Cultivator Kirk’s journey into the cider world began in early 2020 when he decided to try making cider at home. What started as a hobby quickly turned into an obsession, leading him to a career shift. With his extensive experience in design and marketing, Kirk saw a gap in the cider industry for specialized branding services. Thus, Cultivat

Celebrating an Agricultural Legacy and the New England Apple Association The New England Apple Association (NEAA), a venerable institution supporting apple growers across the New England states, will be closing its doors at the end of this fiscal year on June 30, 2024. This announcement, delivered by the NEAA's Executive Director, Russell Steven Powell, marks the end of an 89-year legacy dedicated to promoting and supporting the region’s apple industry. Hear Powell on Episode 245 present Apples of New England to the Amherst Historical society: a companion YouTube video of this informative presentation The History of New England Apple Association The NEAA, originally established in 1935 as the New York and New England Apple Institute, has played a pivotal role in the apple industry. The organization has evolved through the decades, reflecting changes in the industry and market dynamics. It became the Northeast Macintosh Growers Association in 1993 after New York established its own marketing organiz

Crank the Bach & Go Boating with Green Bench in Hand Brian Wing of Green Bench Mead and Cider is a classical music fan. Green Bench is located in Saint Petersburg, Florida and Brian was recently on episode 398 which is a must listen. Usually, we wait a bit here at Cider Chat Central to have a guest back on, but when a delivery of cider arrived from Brian, with 4 select bottles, the opportunity arose once again have a chat. Single Varietals to Bach Chamber Blends Black Twig: An Earthy Delight Brian starts the conversation by discussing the Black Twig, a cider crafted from the 2022 crop. This cider showcases a unique blend of 80% Black Twig and 20% Chestnut Crab apples. Brian describes the Black Twig as having a peachy blush color with a flavor profile that includes low acidity, apple Redfield: The Rosé of Ciders The Redfield, a single varietal cider made from 100% Redfield apples. Known for its vibrant red flesh, this cider offers a stunning color and a flavor profile dominated by cranberry and

What exactly are Cider Hybrids Exploring Cider Hybrids and Co-ferments as recored at a panel discussion at CiderCon 2024. The terminology for this category is still developing, reflecting the innovative and experimental nature of these beverages. As producers continue to explore and create unique blends and co-ferments, the language will evolve to better capture the diversity and creativity inherent in these new cider expressions. In this episode of Cider Chat Delve into the innovative and creative world of cider hybrids and co-ferments with a panel of expert cider makers from around the globe to discuss the nuances, challenges, and joys of creating these unique beverages.  The discussion opens with a brief introduction to the panelists: Christine Hardy – Co-owner and cider maker at Riley’s Cidery on Bowen Island, BC, and board member of the Cider Institute of North America. Tom Oliver – Cider and Perry maker at Oliver’s Cider and Perry in Herefordshire, England. Ryan Burk – Owner and cider maker at Occam Ci

Businesses Certified as a B Corp Stand Out! Explore the benefits of B Corp certification with leaders from solar, candle, coffee, and cider industries. Learn about their challenges and successes in creating positive social and environmental impact. In this Cider Chat Enjoy this informative panel discussion led by Bridget Sprague of Revision Energy with Ted Barber of Prosperity Candle, Beth Spong of Dean’s Beans Organic Coffee and Kat Hand of Berkshire Cider Project. Listen as they share their experiences, challenges, and successes in becoming and maintaining B Corp certified. The conversation highlights the value of this business model in creating positive social and environmental impact through business. Feature with B Corps begins at (10:04 minutes) Introduction to B Corps Guest Introductions and Their Businesses Bridget Sprague: Vice President at Revision Energy, a solar company based in Maine and Massachusetts, B Corp since 2015, 100% employee-owned, nearly 500 employees. Ted Barber: Co-founder o

Is Ancestral Method different than Pet Nat? This panel discussion on Ancestral Method was moderate by Nicole Leibon of LeNosse Knows consultation. She was joined by Yann Gilles, a French cider consultant, Levi Danielson of Oregon's RAW cider and David Carr of California's Raging Cider. This feature was was recorded at CiderCon 2024, the annual trade conference hosted by the American Cider Association. (ltor) Nicole LeGrand Liebon, Yann Gilles, Levi Danielson, Dave Carr The discussion centers around various aspects of cider production, specifically highlighting traditional cider-making methods like the "ancestral method. Topics discuss on this panel Cider Making Methods and Personal Backgrounds of each speaker   Ancestral Method of Cider Production This traditional method of cider making is particularly prominent in Normandy and Brittany, France.   It involves a two-step fermentation process: the first step is in tanks and the second in bottles, intentionally leaving both fermentations

Find the latest Cider Dispatch from Highland County Virginia Cider Bon Vivant Reporter Al Sax provide a cider dispatch report from Monterey Virginia. This area of Virginia is known as Highland County and it is here that Big Fish Cider is located. One of the cool extras (beside cider) when visiting this region, is that it is a Dark Sky area. This means good star grazing due to the lack of night lights drowning out the night sky. Al interviews Big Fish Cider Maker and Owner Kirk Billingsley. Kirk was last on Cider Chat in Episode 124. That recording took place in 2018 at CiderCon the annual trade conference for the American Cider Association Ria with Big Fish pulled chilled from the stream Changes at Big Fish from 2018 -2024 400 apple trees planted Can order Big Fish online Tasting room open Friday -Sunday Contact for Big Fish Cider Co. Website: https://www.bigfishcider.com/about-us/ eMail: info@bigfishcider.com Telephone: (540) 468-2322 Address 59 Spruce Street, Monterey, VA  24465 Work with Cider Ch

Technical Tips for When Things Go Wrong with Cider Making This episode features two cider professionals and a cider industry consultant, which is exactly who you need a direct line to when your cider has problems. Hear from Megan Faschoway who at the time of this recording was Senior Cider Maker at Sea Cider, Kira Bassingthwaighte Head Cider Maker at Western Cider in Montana and Nick Gunn of BenchGraft a cider consultation service based in Salem Oregon. This talk took place in Portland Oregon at CiderCon, the annual cider conference hosted by the American Cider Association. The title of the talk was “What to do when things go wrong”. The focus was not on preventive measures, but as the title says – curative steps that one can take to try to mitigate a problem with a particular cider In this Cider Chat on Cider Problems Dealing with rotten egg smell from your cider Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is a negative off-aroma compound that can occur in cider and has a rotten egg smell. It’s produced by the yeast Saccharo

Cider’s Best Friend is Perry Enjoy this panel discussion “Pear Necessities: International Perry recorded at CiderCon 2024. The panel was moderated by drinks writer, Adam Wells of the UK. Sitting to his right was Tom Oliver of Olivers Cider and Perry Ltd (UK), Laura Cherry of Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State), Albert Johnson of Ross and Wye Cider and Perry Company (UK) and cider critic and blogger Natalia Wszelaki (Germany). (L to R) Tom Oliver (Oliver’s Cider and Perry), Albert Johnson (Ross-on-Wye Cider), Laura Cherry (Dragon’s Head Cider), Natalia Wszelaki (Cider Explorer), Adam Wells (Cider Review) Topics discussed during this Perry Panel Introduction of Perry Panel Speakers Overview of Perry in both Europe, the UK and America Tasting profiles of 4 Perry’s Oliver’s Cider and Perry Ltd. (UK) SHHH Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Company (UK) Thorn 2019 S.V. Perry Kertelreiter (Germany) Heiden 2021 Single Tree Perry Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State, US) Sparkling Perry Perry critique

Escape to Olympic Bluffs a Dream Vacation Destination Olympic Bluffs Cidery & Lavender Farm is located on the northern coast of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. The farm is on a bluff that overlooks the Salish Sea, which spans the international waters between British Columbia and Washington State. The location is dreamy with views of Mount Baker, a 10,000+ foot mountain, to the east and Victoria Canada to the north. Olympic Bluffs was founded by Ginger and Scott Wierzbanowski, who found farm land years early on a trip to Washington State. Both are Air Force Veterans with Ginger serving as an Intel Officer and Scott as an Air Force F 16 pilot. Scott and Ginger next to F 16 – note Scott’s name on plane The two met in Korea, married in Denmark, and lived in Europe where in France they discovered Calvados. Years later their love of cider helped frame Olympic Bluffs Cidery and Lavender Farm which has an onsite Lavender shop, a cider production area, a Bed and Breakfast next door, and a commercial

Mike Biltonen and his wife Debbie founded Know Your Roots in 2008 and began offering a wide array of service for backyard and commercial orchardists in 2014. Mike This conversation tool place at the Berkshire Roundtable that was founded my Micheal Phillips 34 years ago. This annual meet up of orchardist and cider makers takes place in Massachusetts each spring. It is an informal discussion amoungst peers all on growing apples and assorted pomme fruits. Micheal Phillips was a renown orchardist and author of many books like The Holistic Orchard. Find all his books at Cider Chat’s book page. Listen to episode 312 dedicated to Micheal. In this Cider Chat The backstory of Know Your Roots Services offered by Know Your Roots What to consider before planting an orchard Mike’s background in Biodynamic (BD) orcharding Defining Holistic Orcharding Making a BD preparation Climate change – dealing with late season frost The future at Know Your Roots and…cider? Mike and Ria recording this episode Contact for Know Y

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts. A Cider Log Documents Ferments from Start to Finish Find a free downloadable Cider Log for your next ferment below! Dan Gallagher of Frosty Twig Cider, a new startup based in Canton New York, has created a form for your next batch of cider. Dan who began making cider in 2017 found online cider making forums and cider influencer tips both informative, but also conflicting. The Cider Log was created to track what actually does or doesn’t work when fermenting. In This Cider Chat with Dan Gallagher Dan’s backstory The value of a Cider Log His goal for Frosty Twig Cider to begin commerical sales A step by step review of each stage of a cider ferment From sourcing fruit to bottling Working with Canton Apples Follow along as we review this filled in Cider Log below with Dan. Contact for Frosty Twig Cider Instagram @frostytwigcider Download this Cider Log for your next ferment. By going to https://ciderchat.com/podcast/407-cider-log/

Japan is not only Cherry Blossom, but also Apple Country! Lee Reeve of InCiderJapan kicks off this episode stating “Japan is Apple Country.” And he is right… because Lee has been on the podcast 3x’s and has taught listeners all about this apple country and the regions were orchards are abundant that the growing cider community. He is the Publisher and Editor of inCiderJapan, the country’s first and only bilingual magazine dedicated to all things cider. He was first on the podcast in Episode 114 and again in Episode 173. Each time we were able to catch up on the happenings in Japan. By the way, there are two main apple growing regions: Aomori to Nagano. In this Cider Chat Cider in Japan post the pandemic and updates for Lee as his role evolves The state of cider today Japanese culture and cider education Rules around making cider in Japan The Japan Cider Cup OK Adam Cider a Japanese cider brand Contact InCiderJapan Website: https://www.inciderjapan.com/ Japan Cider Cup – https://www.japancidercup.com/ M